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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: help, why are gassers troublesome?
« on: March 24, 2014, 09:11:55 AM »
Thanks JTS 
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Central Boiler / Re: CB E1400 vs P&M Optimizer
« on: March 24, 2014, 06:19:21 AM »Roger, I see you like your CB, I had asked in another thread how you like it, I take this as a yes! :-)
And, the answer in my other post is, yes, I like it. It beats dishing out over $5,100.00/yr to the oil man. Roger
I hear you, out $3000 already, and more on the way...UGH!!!
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Central Boiler / Re: Time to load
« on: March 23, 2014, 06:14:19 PM »
How many square ft are ya'll heating with the 1450?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: help, why are gassers troublesome?
« on: March 23, 2014, 05:10:03 PM »
Thanks Jrider, sounds like a great unit, now just wondering what they cost
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Central Boiler / Re: CB E1400 vs P&M Optimizer
« on: March 23, 2014, 05:04:34 PM »
Roger, I see you like your CB, I had asked in another thread how you like it, I take this as a yes! :-)
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: help, why are gassers troublesome?
« on: March 23, 2014, 04:50:37 PM »I am by no men's trying too talk you out of a gasser, and it would be great for you too stop paying OPEC.
But wouldn't you want to "stop the bleeding before you fix the heart"?
I am still up in the air a bit on what I want to do, I definitely like the idea of burning less wood more efficiently, but still don't have my mind made up, but am leaning towards a gasser. To stop the bleeding I will be replacing windows, garage doors and insulating my house better over the coming summer.
Roger- are you happy with the performance of your CB? If you had to do it over tomorrow and could choose any efficiency would you choose the one you have?
It looks like of all the gassers the Optimizer seems the most well liked, well that's my perception from reading these forums, does that seem pretty accurate?
How much is the cost of a Optimizer 250? I actually sent an email last week to a guy who is supposed to be a dealer around here but have not heard back from him.
Would anybody care to comment on the Woodmaster G series? I am also thinking about that one.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: help, why are gassers troublesome?
« on: March 23, 2014, 11:26:08 AM »
Thanks Roger.
I don't think I would really want to heat my hot water in the summer, but I am asking because I want to know how the gasser would do with a very little load, and how to run it efficiently that way.
I don't think I would really want to heat my hot water in the summer, but I am asking because I want to know how the gasser would do with a very little load, and how to run it efficiently that way.
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Fire Wood / Re: Burning Willow
« on: March 23, 2014, 09:37:25 AM »
I burned willow in my woodstove one year, awful smell when green, but actually had a pleasant smell when it was well seasoned the following year. It is not the best wood to burn, unless it's free...that does make it better than bought wood in my book. I looked it up on the arborist website when my buddy brought me over a few truck loads a few years ago and decided that it wasn't the best quality, but certainly nothing wrong with burning it. I would use it on warmer days and when you will be around to reload more often.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« on: March 23, 2014, 09:25:19 AM »Previous warming and cooling periods of our planet does not mean that it is not happening now, nor that man does not play a part in that process. That argument is one of flawed logic.Did not read the article but global warming is real. We cannot continue to burn fossil fuels, driving gasoline powered vehicles and add millions of tons of carbon into the air year after year without consequences. North pole melting more every year. Permafrost thawing rapidly. Ice cover decrease. Only portion of glaciers left. Extreme heat in most of the US. Do not have to be smart to realize what is happening. A natural cycle? Think again.So what melted the glaciers during the "ice age", Global Warming??…How about its a cycle on how the Earth works?..Maybe you need to think again..
Neal
Some of these arguments just make me shake my head. Don't you know it's not your wood burner that heats your house in the winter, it's the sun, it warms up the earth everyday and has long before you had a OWB.
I really like this site and shouldn't even speak to this topic because I think everyone already has their own mind made up, however I have to say that I think it is absurd to think "global warming" is a plot to make money...The Iraq war was a plot, global warming is really happening and we as humans are having a very big part in it.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« on: March 23, 2014, 09:16:37 AM »Global warming, hard to believe that this year, I would say a mini-ice-age this winter. Glad I burned wood this year, I guess I was a contributor to Global Warming.
Although it was warmer locally, globally it was one of the warmest on record. The polar caps are melting very fast and cooling the worlds oceans which is causing extreme weather conditions from the differences of temperature. I wonder what will happen when the polar caps are gone...
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Portage & Main / Re: optimizer 250 4th season review
« on: March 22, 2014, 07:37:08 PM »Thats a lot of wood! You must have a big heat load.
I burn between 8-9 full cord and I thought that was a lot.
Do you mind me asking what your square footage is and where you are?
Trying to get an idea of wood consumption
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HeatMaster / Re: How much wood do you burn?
« on: March 22, 2014, 07:22:44 PM »Why waste the money on a heat pump when you are buying a owb? I haven't used my heatpump in 3 years.
Yea, I was just mulling this over in my mind, maybe a heat pump water heater would be a better investment for the summer....
The reason I was thinking heat pump is we need to change out our ac anyways and we are going to be going solar so I figured free sun energy to heat, wood I will have to pay for.
Can I do okay with a gasser unit on warmer spring days with just a few sticks to keep it going, would I be better off using a hot water tank to hold the heat for night and letting it go out...?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: help, why are gassers troublesome?
« on: March 22, 2014, 06:46:42 PM »
Thank you guys (you all are guys right?)!!!
Personally I would like a gasser because it's less wood and more efficient, but I also would like to have some flexibility in how I burn it. I don't mind the fact that you need to burn well seasoned wood because no matter what you are burning in the more seasoned your wood the more efficient it's gonna be.
My big concern, what I am trying to figure out is what you do on warmer days when it's not being called on for heat. I plan on putting in a heat pump and have that take the heating load on warmer days, what do I do with the wood burner then? Also is it possible to heat your water in warmer months when no heat is needed with a gasser? Would it make sense to use the gasser unit with a water storage tank and then just let it go out on warmer days, but then would I have creosote building up from that?
Sorry for my ignorance, I am just trying to figure some things out, and I don't have a lot of time to figure it out. We moved into this house on halloween and the ductwork and insulation is terrible, we have gone through $3000 in oil and 4+ cords of wood in our stove. Now we have an elderly grandmother who we need to have move in and that means finishing our basement, so I want to figure out what I am doing with the duct and heating lines asap so I can finish it for her to move in.
Again many many thanks, I appreciate the knowledge and time!!!
Personally I would like a gasser because it's less wood and more efficient, but I also would like to have some flexibility in how I burn it. I don't mind the fact that you need to burn well seasoned wood because no matter what you are burning in the more seasoned your wood the more efficient it's gonna be.
My big concern, what I am trying to figure out is what you do on warmer days when it's not being called on for heat. I plan on putting in a heat pump and have that take the heating load on warmer days, what do I do with the wood burner then? Also is it possible to heat your water in warmer months when no heat is needed with a gasser? Would it make sense to use the gasser unit with a water storage tank and then just let it go out on warmer days, but then would I have creosote building up from that?
Sorry for my ignorance, I am just trying to figure some things out, and I don't have a lot of time to figure it out. We moved into this house on halloween and the ductwork and insulation is terrible, we have gone through $3000 in oil and 4+ cords of wood in our stove. Now we have an elderly grandmother who we need to have move in and that means finishing our basement, so I want to figure out what I am doing with the duct and heating lines asap so I can finish it for her to move in.
Again many many thanks, I appreciate the knowledge and time!!!
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / help, why are gassers troublesome?
« on: March 22, 2014, 02:06:28 PM »
Okay I would just like some help understanding this: It seems that outdoor gasification units are finicky and somewhat troublesome, while people seem to not have all those same things to say about indoor gasification units. What is the difference?
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HeatMaster / Re: How much wood do you burn?
« on: March 22, 2014, 11:54:31 AM »
One more question:
What is the AFUE rating of the 5000e?
What is the AFUE rating of the 5000e?
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