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Re: Shaver auto dampers
« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2012, 08:11:10 AM »

Hi lugnut
 can you send me the info and pictures of the auto damper you have and anyone elese have any pictures and planes

 Solenoid is attached to a piece of flat bar welded to back of boiler right above fan. Flat bar bent on 90 deg at end to attach solenoid. Turn buckle used to attach so you have adjustment to set fan opening.


How did you do that?  I asked if you could post a photo of where and how...and here it is and you're not even online.  It's....why it's magic!   :thumbup:

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Re: Shaver auto dampers
« Reply #46 on: January 09, 2012, 04:42:19 PM »

My factory setup

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Re: Shaver auto dampers
« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2012, 11:05:38 AM »

Whoa....look at this.  I think you may have found my answer.  I think I might be able to turn the darn motor around and just shorten the plate that the solenoid in mounted to.  Why didn't I think of this sooner?  So, silly question here...how do you determine how to set the solenoid as to the proper opening?  as I already know..via personal experience, if it is kept from opening on its own the way it should, they burn up.   :bash:

The temps are to be warm today, wonder if I should take a stab at doing this now or waiting until Spring.  I'll go shower and think about it. 

Thanks Ed.

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Re: Shaver auto dampers
« Reply #48 on: January 10, 2012, 03:36:16 PM »

Hi lugnut
 can you send me the info and pictures of the auto damper you have and anyone elese have any pictures and planes

 Solenoid is attached to a piece of flat bar welded to back of boiler right above fan. Flat bar bent on 90 deg at end to attach solenoid. Turn buckle used to attach so you have adjustment to set fan opening.


How did you do that?  I asked if you could post a photo of where and how...and here it is and you're not even online.  It's....why it's magic!   :thumbup:

Lugnut
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Re: Shaver auto dampers
« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2012, 04:12:15 AM »

Whoa....look at this.  I think you may have found my answer.  I think I might be able to turn the darn motor around and just shorten the plate that the solenoid in mounted to.  Why didn't I think of this sooner?  So, silly question here...how do you determine how to set the solenoid as to the proper opening?  as I already know..via personal experience, if it is kept from opening on its own the way it should, they burn up.   :bash:

The temps are to be warm today, wonder if I should take a stab at doing this now or waiting until Spring.  I'll go shower and think about it. 

Thanks Ed.

Jerry

Jerry,

That's the way it came mounted from factory, except I rotated the electric motor (not blower) to better access the wires. When it opens it's about a third of being totally open.  Plenty for the cycle and shuts right when up to temp. 
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Re: Shaver auto dampers
« Reply #50 on: January 11, 2012, 07:10:41 AM »

What if you turn the blow on a 30 degree angle you would have to drill new holes on the flang
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Re: Shaver auto dampers
« Reply #51 on: January 11, 2012, 04:18:46 PM »

What if you turn the blow on a 30 degree angle you would have to drill new holes on the flang

Yes you would have to redrill

and depending whether Shaver used a true template or some shop guy to drill the holes, you may not even be able to rotate it 90 mor 180 without redrilling.

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« Reply #52 on: January 11, 2012, 10:51:11 PM »

One other thing I noticed, as I did re-drill the flange holes...the second grader who built my furnace did NOT get the pipe coming out of the ash box straight...so I have a bit of an angle to my pipe.  That was fun lining up as well. 

Ed, they must have made improvements  ???  on my solenoid plate as it is about 8" long.  Yours is quite a bit shorter and no, I did not mess with it yesterday.  Cold weather and snow is approaching later on Thursday....today almost.  guess this will have to wait until Spring.  We'll see.  Say, can you measure for me the bottom of the plate to the top of it?  Maybe all I have to do is cut mine off.  But wait, did you order yours from the "factory" as optional equipment?  Mine was "supposed to come from the "factory" that way, but the third grader who does the work orders missed reading class that day. :bash:

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Re: Shaver auto dampers
« Reply #53 on: January 12, 2012, 04:03:38 AM »

Jerry,

Came from the factory that way.   I will measure for you,  I'm away right now but will get it on Saturday for you.

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« Reply #54 on: January 12, 2012, 09:31:38 AM »

Jerry,

Came from the factory that way.   I will measure for you,  I'm away right now but will get it on Saturday for you.

Ed

Saturday works well for me Ed...it and I are NOT going anywhere.

Jerry
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Re: Shaver auto dampers
« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2012, 12:52:48 PM »


Jerry,

8 1/4"  from bottom radius to top.



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Re: Shaver auto dampers
« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2012, 09:16:42 AM »

What about the CFM's I just got the 75cfm moter and installed it.  Ive been finding that if the wood is a little wet the 75 cfm motor
seems to nock the fire down it seems to work better with the 50 cfm motor am I crazy ? 
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Re: Shaver auto dampers
« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2012, 04:34:31 AM »

What about the CFM's I just got the 75cfm moter and installed it.  Ive been finding that if the wood is a little wet the 75 cfm motor
seems to nock the fire down it seems to work better with the 50 cfm motor am I crazy ?

You could just adjust the flapper if your going to burn green wood.  return it to normal when back to seasoned wood.

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Re: Shaver auto dampers
« Reply #58 on: January 17, 2012, 05:43:31 PM »

Thanks Treewinder, ill try that how much of a gap 1"
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Re: Shaver auto dampers
« Reply #59 on: January 17, 2012, 08:11:26 PM »


Jerry,

8 1/4"  from bottom radius to top.



Ed

Thanks Ed......we have the same size plate.  So did I read y our post incorrectly...you flipped the electric motor, NOT the blower?  You've seen a close up of my blower/motor...I really don't have any choice but to wait until Spring to have a nipple installed in the pex line above the blower motor in order to raise it higher so I can flip the damper plate vertical.  Unless you ore someone else on here can come up with an alternative plan....  I do know that tomorrow, I have to go out a buy another 5" of plastic tube as I cut mine back a bit trying to modify the opening.

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